
In the Order of Melchizedek and Traditions of Seth, Solomon, David and Yehoshua


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Muhammad: Holy-Man to Emulate?
History is clear; Muhammad was by all accounts illiterate, foul tempered and superstitious. He came to his prophecy revelations had following several “scary nights” in a dark cave believing he had been conversing with “Evil.” His wife, Khadija bint Khuwailid, a widow who was fifteen years his senior, convinced Muhammad who he spoke with in the cave was actually the angel Jibril (Gabriel) who revealed to him basis for the Qur’an. Muhammad married a 6 year old, then ‘came to know her’ her when she was 9; I know traditional countless Muslim apologists have multiple counter narratives to ‘maintain’ Muhammad’s status as a righteous prophet, though herein is discovered the truth through the words of their own scriptures; to include an account narrated by his child bride herself:
While this does refute the claim that Muhammad was the ultimate moral guide, he convinced his followers He knew what was best. We note that Islam as a religion is much newer than Judaism. He was nothing less of a tyrannical warlord that participated in the despicable practice of marrying children. Aisha wasn’t the only young girl Muhammad had eyes for:
(Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I. recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lFadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, 'If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.' But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. 'Abdu'l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubab… (Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, translated by A. Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi], p. 311) Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her." (Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636)
“Muhammad’s Invisible Mecca”
No Mecca Unitl 400 years following the reported death of ‘Muhammad’ whose actual existence remains in question. The common narrative of Mecca's founding, as presented in Islamic tradition, traces its origins to the biblical patriarch Abraham (known as Ibrahim in Arabic) and his son Ishmael (Ismail). According to the Quran (e.g., Surah Al-Baqarah 2:125-127).
However, when examining historical records, archaeological findings, and non-Islamic sources, this narrative faces significant challenges. There is a notable absence of evidence supporting Mecca's existence as a major settlement or religious center before the 4th to 7th centuries CE—far later than the Abrahamic era around 2000 BCE. Assyrian and Babylonian inscriptions from the 9th to 6th centuries BCE detail tribes, kingdoms, and trade routes in western and northern Arabia, including entities like Qedar, Ephah, Teima, and Saba, but make no mention of Mecca or tribes like Jurhum, which Islamic tradition claims dominated the area since Abraham's time.
Similarly, Greek and Roman geographers such as Ptolemy (2nd century CE) and Diodorus Siculus (1st century BCE) describe Arabian sites, but their references (e.g., Ptolemy's "Macoraba") are debated and do not convincingly align with Mecca's location or description; some scholars argue these point to other places like Moka in Arabia Petraea.
Archaeologically, the picture is even starker. No artifacts, inscriptions, or structures from Mecca date before the 8th century CE, despite extensive records from comparable arid regions in Arabia like Yemen or the Nabataean sites. The first unambiguous external reference to Mecca appears in the Chronicle of 741 CE, which oddly places it in Mesopotamia rather than the Hejaz.
Mecca does not appear on maps of Arabia until around 900 CE.
This lack of evidence has led some researchers to conclude that Mecca was not an ancient city but emerged as a minor trade outpost in the Christian era, possibly around the 4th century CE, benefiting from shifts in overland spice routes amid Byzantine-Sasanian conflicts.
Revisionist scholars, such as Patricia Crone and Michael Cook in their 1977 book Hagarism, have proposed that the traditional Islamic origins story may be a later construct. They argue that early Islam's holy city was not Mecca but a site further north, possibly in the Fertile Crescent or even Petra (in modern Jordan), where archaeological evidence shows a major pre-Islamic religious center with features matching early Quranic descriptions, such as a valley with abundant vegetation and a prominent shrine.
For instance, early mosques built between the 7th and 8th centuries CE oriented their qiblas (prayer directions) toward Petra rather than modern Mecca, suggesting a shift in sacred geography during the Umayyad period.
This theory posits that the Kaaba's stones and traditions were relocated southward to the current Mecca site around the late 7th century, perhaps for political reasons under Caliph Abd al-Malik, to consolidate power away from rival centers.
Counterarguments from some historians and Islamic apologists point to indirect evidence, such as Thamudic inscriptions from southern Jordan mentioning names like "Abd Mekkat" (Servant of Mecca), which could imply an early cult or tribe linked to the site, or Samaritan midrashim from the 10th century associating Ishmael's descendants with building Mecca. However, these are tenuous and often postdate the claimed events by centuries. Modern excavations in Mecca are restricted due to its sacred status, limiting further archaeological inquiry.
While Islamic tradition provides a cohesive theological foundation for Mecca's antiquity, the empirical record suggests it was likely a much later development, with its elevated status retroactively tied to Abrahamic lore during Islam's formative centuries. This discrepancy highlights how religious narratives can evolve independently of verifiable history, a pattern seen in many ancient traditions.



